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This game is recommended for those ages 16 and up (for mentions of sexual acts and descriptions of violence). This game also contains momentary scenes of flashing colors and shaking effects.

Please read the trigger warnings below carefully before downloading. Prioritize your mental health first and foremost.

Mild spoilers trigger warning list (click to see more)
  • Suicidal ideation and suicide (gun, hanging, drowning, and attempts)
  • Sexual mentions (implicit mentions, sex as self harm, dubious consent, sexual coercion)
  • Murder
  • Mentions of alcohol and alcoholism
  • Mentions of child abuse (physical and emotional)
  • Domestic violence
  • Animal death
  • Self-harm
  • Blood / Gore
  • Desecration of a corpse
  • Guns (lots of them)
  • Emotional manipulation
  • Disassociation, de-reality, and depersonalization
  • Night terrors / Psychosis
  • Mentions of gang violence
  • Mentions of child death
Major spoilers trigger warning list (click to see more)
  • Human experimentation
  • Medical malpractice


"This is simply my punishment, for everything that had happened." 

Aran Yun woke up in a hospital room, heavily injured. He discovered that the year is 2034 and that he doesn't remember anything from the past 11 years of his life. Wanting to learn more about himself and his past, Aran asked his doctor— Caleb Ashton, for help. The very same doctor who also claimed to be his lover, oddly enough. Caleb agreed to help recount their past and their time together. 

However, something doesn't feel right. There seemed to be something far more sinister lurking beneath the surface. 

...would it be better to act as if everything was fine, though?



  • Switching perspectives between two main characters and two timelines
  • Around 3 - 7 hours of gameplay, depending on reading speed.
  • 38+ CGs (and a gallery to access it)
  • A total of 10 chapters with 2 routes and 10 endings (you can access the endings guide here)

First of all, I wanted to thank Spader and Dia for making the development process so much more fun! I also want to thank Alouette and Vieno for always supporting me in what I do and making the time to help me out with my projects, despite being really busy with their own lives. And of course, thank you for checking out this game page right now. The fact that you're even considering to play my game is always super appreciated!

As thanks, I'm giving out free icons of the WTTFM characters. You can access the folder here (clicking the image below also leads you to the same drive folder). You can use the icons for anything you want, just please do not remove the credit and/or sell it.

This game is free, but you can also get WTTFM's game book if you spend more than 3$ for the game. Here is a preview some pages of the book, without spoiling or giving away too much of the game:


The PDF contains a total of 34 pages of artworks used in game, character full body sprites, some unused art, character concept arts, initial concept of the game, and more!

This game has a sequel now! The story is set a year after the epilogue. Some of the characters in this visual novel will be making some appearances in it.

You can support me by leaving a rating and/or a comment! I will really appreciate it! Regardless, I hope you enjoy the game, don't hesitate to let me know what you think of it (or if there's any error) .

There may be spoilers down in the comments.

StatusReleased
PlatformsWindows, macOS
Rating
Rated 4.8 out of 5 stars
(55 total ratings)
Authorsylvan
GenreVisual Novel
Made withTyranoBuilder
Tags2D, Anime, Boys' Love, Dark, LGBTQIA, Multiple Endings, Mystery, Psychological Horror, Romance, Story Rich
Average sessionA few hours
LanguagesEnglish

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Where the Two Flowers Meet v1.2.1 - Windows 64bit.zip 417 MB
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Where the Two Flowers Meet v1.2.1 - Mac 64bit.zip 419 MB
Where the Two Flowers Meet v1.2 - 64bit.zip 417 MB
Where the Two Flowers Meet v1.2 - 32bit.zip 414 MB
WTTFM Gamebook.pdf 53 MB
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It's been a long while since I've gotten the time to play games, time to play this one and then your new one back to back >:)

Okay, time for a change of pace, visuals, story, and then characters.

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FIRST OFF. I LOVE THE ART IT IMPROVED SO MUCH COMPARED TO FOR AMERTA ITS INSANE THE LINE WORK AND THE COLORING IS SOO MUCH CLEANER AND I LOVE THE RENDERING SOO SOO SOOO MUCHHHH

The song is really nice to hear in the background and I can see that in some way, youve once again improved in creating a scene. It was breathtaking looking at past aran, he was so ethereal.

The art, the portraits in general. They're mesmerizing. I love the characters and how they look.

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The dialogue is beautiful. Just like the other two games, it feels natural and nice. The story itself was so deep and beautiful. It was incredible. I really took the time to be immersed in the story because it was just beautiful.

Lowkey giggled at Caleb a few times, he's a funny character. The characters in general were diverse and amazing. The banter between Aran and Caleb is just incredible. It really does feel like I'm watching two people fall in love.

I was theorizing so hard I went from "aran is in a dream and still asleep" to "Caleb has to be lying" to "CALEB ISNT LYING BUT HE'S COVERING THINGS UP AND HE'S THE ONE WHO PUSHED ARAN OFF THE 7 STORY BUILDING AND HE'S HIDING SOMETHING!!" to "oh my gosh aran isn’t even in a hospital he's in a dupe and is stuck in caleb's house and they’re just acting like they’re in the hospital" to "CALEB AND JULIA ARE DEF HIDING SOMETHING AND FRIDA KNOWS ITT!!" Then I started to get even more suspicious of the story. "ooo.. aran is talented and has a ton of friends but out of nowhere he jumps off a building? Howd he lose his arm then.... SO STRANGE!!" I was on edge the whole game. HAHA

Even more so when I was on chapter 4-5 I WAS SCREAMING SO MUCH LIKE "I KNEW CALEB WAS NO GOOD I KNEW IT!!" and then..

I got the first ending. Aran got shot. I stared at the screen with a face of bewilderment just staring at it. I did not expect that. I did not expect that AT ALL. HOW WAS THAT A NORMAL ENDING??? Was the first thought in my head "IF THAT WAS A NORMAL ENDING HOWS THE OTHER ENDINGS???" I was legit having a crisis. Then, finally we got some clarity. I thought. "WHO WAS THE WOMAN IN THE VIDEO?!" was my next crisis. "IS IT FRIDA? IS THAT ARAN'S MOM?! WHO THE HECK IS THAT" then i got ending 2 bc AINT NO WAY I WAS NOT CALLING THAT MAN OUT, AINT NO WAY.

Honestly, that made me sad. Next time Aran will forget how to breathe/j then... chapter five happened.

GOD WHERE DO I START WITH CHAPTER FIVE?? JESUS CHRIST. ROY WAS THERE- CALEB WAS UP TO NO GOOD AS I SUSPECTED AND NOW I KNOW THAT. Then the attire world SHATTERED and I screamed. ARAN HAS BEEN ROY ALL THIS FRICKING TIMEEE OH MY GOSHHHH AND I WAS JUST SO CONFLICTED LIKE "WHO WROTE THIS AND WAS KIND OF DEMONIC ENTITY POSSESSED THEM TO PUT THIS MAN THROUGH ALLLL OF THIS? AAALLL OF THIS." I WAS SPEECHLESS I WAS SHOCKED AND MOST ESPECIALLY I DID NOT LIKE CALEB. CALEB WAS PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE

Route C

and I just felt misery. Chapter 6 was a stab to my heart. I was crying. I couldnt do it. Caleb and Aran were going to be happy if only Caleb's mom hadn't stolen the money if only the house was bought sooner. They would have lived normally or if aran had called sooner... Maybe they would have been okay. You can really see how grief changed caleb.

GODD SEEING ROY ACT LIKE THAT MADE ME FEEL SICK. UGHH ITS SOO.. UGHH I DONT KNOW ITS JUST SOO SAD.

I AM NOT EVEN GONNA TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENED IN CHAPTER SIX. AAHH... godd that hurt a lot.

Chapter 7, feels so eerie. The repetitive dialogue gave me shivers. Everything else felt natural... then we get the first part and all i feel is "oh my god the dialogue is so forced between them I can't function". (IN A GOOD WAY) THEN WHEN CALEB WALKS OUT I GOT GOOSEBOBS. GOOSEBOBS WITH HOW AGGRESSIVE ARAN GOT LIKE IT WAS CRAZY. IT WAS SCARY.

I'm so glad my girl julia got away

ugh............I took route C first bc happy endings last!!! Anyways.. Seeing Roy act like his dead brother always makes me really sad. I'd stare at the screen and just loathe. really sad. :(( It hurt seeing Roy and Caleb in that way. 

UGHHH SITTING THROUGH CHAPTER 7 WAS SO UNCOMFY AND SUFFOCATING (in a good way) AAAAAA seeing Aroy (i'll call 07 aroy bc aroy feels like a completely different character from seven. More about that in the character analysis section) still retain features of roy was crazy. Pulling my hair because some moments are just so FRUSTRATING (I loved frida tho, she did a lot wrong but...)

Then, i went back to Aroy  for now.  Ahhh...... it was painful getting the endless revenge ending. Hurt so much. SO SO MUCH. SEEING CALEB BATTERED AND BRUISED LIKE THAT. AUGHHH hurt me so much. Props on Aroy tho ig.. If that's your concept of justice i wont judge!!! But it also hurts seeing Aroy be a genuinely good person and turn into the monster he is in this ending. This route in general.

Then I got the hydrangea ending and I just burst out sobbing. Seeing the both of them with their cat being reunited made me so emotional. It was so painful. Yet I feel happy. In the picture Caleb looks really peaceful.

I want to assume that Roy most likely also ended up with his family. He most likely saw his wife and daughter again, and in the after life. They all become one big family. All together. Roy and Aran are reunited and both their families come together.

Project Metempsychosis ending. Ahhh.. god.. I forgot the guy's name. Was it Valentino? I don't want to call them by numbers, seems wrong so I'll call this guy Val. Val was so pretty.

I can't help but be curious as to how Val used to be before becoming Aran. I'm at least glad to know that Caleb is keeping his promise of bringing back Roy's daughter. Nothing else to say about this ending. 

Route S

I keep imagining Herta's voice as Frida or maybe silver wolf. It suits her, anyways... EUghh..

Chapter 6 , it was really heavy. OFC I ESCAPED WITH THE BAE?? UGH I LOVE JULIA!!

Uncertainty

I loved that ending. Seven got his happy ending and lives with Julia. ITs nice that theyre both spending time with eachother and supporting eachother through everything.

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I lowkey have a love-hate relationship with caleb!!!.... I wanna take that blonde man and run him over with a ten wheeler repeatedly yet i wanna take the same blond man and just take bro to therapy. Poor Seven :( that was not needed caleb!!! 

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Banter with Seven and Caleb is nice, I like how Seven is a completely different person. I enjoy how route S is giving the viewer more clarity. Explaining the lore deeper, and its nice and natural. It feels normal to find these things out with Seven because he really seems like the curious type. 

When I saw the option to kill Caleb, I did it. No hesitation. I saved, then i clicked "kill him" 

Together

I feel like at some point, Caleb was developing feelings for Seven. (also the blood reflection was chef's kiss, you improved a lot) It's ironic how he basically bludgeoned his lover's corpse and died the same way. It felt nice seeing Seven do something about caleb.

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AAAAAAA I love how it turned into a lowkey tense action. Caleb and Seven working together is cool asf. GOSHH THE COOL PORTRAIT OF CALEB AND SEVEN BACK TO BACK IS GORGEUOS ( icant spell it anymore.) 

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Fear

It was sad to see Caleb die due to guilt. I really thought they were going to expose it together, but knowing how you write... I already knew that one of them had to die. I'm glad that atleast Seven got to live a somewhat normal life. It's really sad that in the end he backed out and kept quiet.

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Frida's death was satisfying. AHH WHEN I SAW THE EPILOUGE SCREEN I WAS SQUEELING I WAS PRAYING TO MY GOD THAT IT WAS GONNA BE A HAPPY ENDING. 

"In fact, you look really fine, 07. That's why I've been staring"

I SCREAMED SO MUCH, lowkey. The route made me ship Seven and Caleb. It's nice to see Caleb move on from and see Seven discover himself as a person. They also make a cool fricking duo. LIKE THE ACTION SCENES ARE STILL FRESH IN MY MIND. 

The interaction between the two is beautiful. Incredible. It feels so nice reading over their lines. 

Rhododendron was such a beautiful ending. Hearing aran's music made my heart really heavy.

This story is so beautiful. It shows things so beautifully and it hurts so much.

This story is a thousand things, it's a thriller, a psychological horror, a romance, a story of a man battling his struggles. It's a lot of intense things and even with all of that packed in, it doesn't feel suffocating. It feels natural. Things getting worse felt natural. It's a brilliant story with exceptional execution. It was amazing. I can see the amount of love and effort you truly poured into this game. It's a beautiful game. It's incredible. 

I won't go too in-depth on how I view the characters since you can probably already tell by the review above. 

I love how all the characters in the game are really compelling to watch, noone feels annoying whenever they're on screen. It's incredible. 

I have a lot to say about Seven, he's my fav. He's my boy! MY BABY BOY! i love how in his happy endings (uncertainty and Rhododendron)  he looks like his own person. He doesn't look like aran or roy. He's a completely new person. I love how he has Roy's stubbornness and smartness and Aran's empathy and kindness. It makes him into a truly interesting and compelling character, he wants justice to be served and served properly. He'll do what's right and call anyone out on it, unlike Aran, he's really confrontational and isn't afraid to stand up for what's right. Unlike Roy, he doesn't get involved with gangs or do anything criminal, understanding how that's not the right path.

Aran is such a relatable character. I love how beautifully written he is. He looks so angelic and it suits his personality. I love Aran so much. It's tragic to think that he ended it all in such a manner. Truly, it saddens me. 

Julia, she's my second fav!! I was so upset when she died... But at least in other endings she didn't. Despite only appearing a few times she's really developed as a character.

Frida, LOVE HER ENERGY!!! I hate her actions though. Great antagonist. SRSLY SHES AMAZING! I loathe and love her so much.

Caleb, WHERE DO I START WITH HIM??? He's a rollercoaster, he needs a ton of therapy. Though, I love his complexity. He's so blinded by his grief and lost that he participates in something that Aran would be horrified by. It truly hurts seeing how he rolls down hill. I'm glad to see that in route S, he's able to pick himself up a little, and I loved that. It's amazing. SRSLY HOWD I GO FROM HATING TO LOVING TO HATING TO LOVING HIM AGAIN??? I like how even after all these years, Caleb still has the orange tie. I also like how it's not tied properly since he never learned how to tie a tie.

Aroy, I called him Aroy because he's also a combination of Aran and Roy, just without the morals. Aroy tried to act like Aran but deep down was still Roy in a way. Roy's persistence and Aran's kindness got twisted into something monstrous. 

In my personal opinion? This is your magnum opus, story wise. It's a beautifully written story and I truly do wish I could have played it sooner.

this isnt really a proper review it's more of a rant kind of review so its really messy and long... I only fixed up a few grammar errors.. lol..

I read the author's notes. "sh!tty production" is crazy. >:(

Extra: Revisited the game today!! You should play Cure by Vivinos for the non route and route C, maybe even villian by stella jang

For route S? DEF BLINK GONE (by vivinos)

"WHO WROTE THIS AND WAS KIND OF DEMONIC ENTITY POSSESSED THEM TO PUT THIS MAN THROUGH ALLLL OF THIS? AAALLL OF THIS."

Me. Sorry. 😀

Sasuga Astro with the long review! It's really fun and interesting to see your thought process throughout the entire game! (And... I lowkey agree that this is by far my best story so far, not perfect, but I am the proudest of it AHAH).

I really enjoy your character descriptions too, for the most part, you really nailed it! With Seven being curious, Caleb needing therapy (but I guess that's the more obvious one), noticing the tie detail, etc. You're really observant and I admire that! 

I don't mind the messiness of the review, I do enjoy seeing ramblings sometimes! And this is still cohesive and entertaining LOL

Real talk though, I do appreciate your support so far! By commenting, rating, and all that. It's comments like yours that made me want to continue creating! I'm happy that you found some meaning in any of my works, that's truly all I wanted!

And hey nice song choices!! I'm also proud that I've listened to all of them. Honestly? Based taste. 👍

Once again, thank you!

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You are such a great writer, developer, and artist. SRSLY im so happy whenever you leave a reply to me. I'll def make fanart of seven when I have the time!!!

AAAH you're way too kind!! 😭 I'd LOVE to see the fanart, no pressure though!! 

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One of the best games i played. The story is deep and beutiful, even made me cry couple times. The art works great with the story too:)

Thank you very much! That really means a lot!! 🥺

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i have no words, genuinely. the amount of effort that was put into this game is just insane. playing this game was a horrific rollercoaster.. i was gasping left and right

the concept and plot is beautiful, and very well executed as well. i learnt a few educational things myself! damn, id play this again but im not sure my brain can handle all that

Thank you very much for playing and for your kind words!! I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed your time with it! :D

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I’m only on chapter 3 but good lord I need you to know how invested I already am in this and how much I adore the characters. I need Aran so bad bro i’m crying shaking throwing up

edit: got all the endings. holy shit. this was a beautiful experience that went so many directions i didn’t see coming. i seriously cannot put my thoughts into words. this was just… wow.

OH!!! IXKYU HELLO!! I really appreciate the kind words, it means a lot coming from you! I'm so glad and honored to hear that you enjoyed the game and was able to become invested in it!! Thank you!!! 🙏😭

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I want to get all the endings first before commenting but after finishing route S I can't imagine the amount of effort, dedication, and love that was poured into this game, I came up with a lot of theory along the way but the twist still blew my mind, sweetest valentine was a banger, I should've expected that much haha

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So one of them revolved around 07 and Aran's appearance, I was trying to see if they were the same person, and somehow ended up searching facial mole readings, 3 of them being: "tend to have problems related to diet or food"; "need to prevent unwanted sexual advances"; "be cautious with your actions to prevent losing a good reputation" that's genius and one of my absolute fav part about the game 🤧

I feel so bad for all the main characters especially Caleb even though his actions were wrong, I sympathized with him, losing someone dear and going down such a path feeling hopeless/ hopeful...

It's my first time commenting on this website sorry if I ramble too much

edit: I don't think route C is good for my mental health 😭

Aww thank you so much for your kind words, Icykotton!! Facial mole readings is something I've never thought of before and somehow the readings ended up being pretty accurate?? That's super interesting and an amazing coincidence, thank you for letting me know your findings! Also, please don't feel bad for rambling! I love it when people ramble lol 

I'm also very sorry for route C LMAOO

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I've played that game and it was one of the best games I've ever played here, the music, the story and the characters, everything interested me in a way that I just wanted to play more and more.

I admit that I even cried when Aran died, and I only didn't cry anymore because I was entertained. It was really good, I wanted to be able to play like it was the first time, because now I have a void. Thank you for making this game!

Aaah Seven pfp!! Thank you for playing and for using the icon!! I'm happy that you enjoyed the game so much that you shed tears for it and expressed your feelings here! I really do appreciate it! :DD

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I finally played Sweetest Valentine and was struck by your writing and how much it surprised me with how each choice went.. so I had to go and play this right after. 

And WOW. Just wow. I love your writing. You pack so much into so little time, it's well worth sharing everywhere I can.

I see the person 5 months prior to mine pretty much had the same experience, so take that as a confirmation that their enthusiasm is well-warranted. Thank you.

No, thank YOU Smokierings! Your comment honestly  came at the right time and it's something that I really need to hear right now. I'm glad you and the others have enjoyed my writing. Seriously, I can't thank you enough for this, even if it might seem like a small act on your part, but it does mean a lot. Once again, thank you and I hope you have a wonderful time! :D

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This game actually made me cry so much I wanna play it for the first time again so bad and it hasnt even been 24 hours since I finished it. Spent all day playing it and I still want to play it more. Been thinking about it nonstop since i finished it. This game deserves a bigger fandom sm. Thinking of buying the game book soon tysm for releasing this.

Aww and thank you so much for reading! I'm glad you enjoyed the experience! :D

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I expect to cry but not this much

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Ever since I played Sweetest Valentine I started to follow u and became one of my fav devs!! I finally had time to finish this game (hehe definitely did not stayed up late ;p) ONE OF THE GAMES THAT MADE ME CRY ARGHHH that final ending 4 broo ToT, definitely my fav ending. There soo many endings and route too I REALLY ENJOYED THIS GAME SO TYSM FOR MAKING IT AAA.  I love the story and the characters?!? Like omgg I'll say it again your art is beautiful and I really really love your artstyle. AND IM SO GLAD THERES A GALLERY NOW YAYYY. ueueue I'm gonna have a brainrot of this game for weeks looking forward to moree~! hihiii

YeriKyaa! It's so good to see you here as well! I'm honored that I became one of your fav game devs and I hope my future work won't disappoint! I'm sorry (not really LOL) for indirectly making you cry. Thank you for giving wttfm a go and I'm happy that you enjoyed the game! Your kind words are truly appreciated, I mean it. :D

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This game changed my biological structure. my whole being. I absolutely love it, the angst, the story, the characters, and the endings (ESP the bad endings). so so good. Great game >v<

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I am honored to have created such an impact LMAO Thank you for playing and I'm glad you enjoyed the ride!

I'd like to play the game, but when I try to launch it it says that 'save data' was detected and to only load the game from a trusted source, after which it says it has aborted the start up. 

Anything I can do? It says to delete the supposed save data, but I've never played the game before so no clue how it can have save data. 

I've not seen a file with anything resembling that name either. I tried ununstalling an reinstalling a few times, but that didn't seem to do anything either? Any ideas or tips?

Oh, that's definitely odd. Are you playing version 1.2.1? If so, then I'll open access to version 1.2. Please try to download that one and see if that version works fine. I'm sorry for the inconvenience!

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this game managed to break my heart and make me cry multiple times... but I love it.

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OMG, this is wonderful, great story, i definetely engoyed playing it! This is the first story in a long time that reaaally touched me. Author, thank you for such an amazing work, i love it

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not usually a fan of stories centering men but this is 100% smth special and worth checking, finding out what happened between the past scenes and the present scenes is a joy, especially when you use the bad endings' conclusions to piece together the goals of certain characters, as they feel purposefully written to take you closer to the truth, even if it's done in a cryptic way.


spoilers below this line. the game is best played with minimal knowledge!!


the true endings were all pretty great, at some point the game splits into two 'paths', the C endings were all generally quite macabre in different ways, out of them all (including bad endings) the aran ending is my favorite, since it portrays the utter hopelessness of the project for everyone involved (save for frida. she's always winning lol), after the events of the game caleb is incredibly traumatized and seemingly doesnt seem happy even with a successfully recreated aran, 07 had absolutely no means of escape and even if he did, he'd never be able to stop the project successfully and iirc julia's fate is completely unknown. 06 also isnt particularly happy considering he's stuck with an insanely abusive caleb. it's an inherently unsatisfying ending despite it having the least amount of fatalities (afaik only 07 and 05 die) because the project was never meant to improve people's lives, and with caleb never coming to grips with that fact, he would never find true happiness.


out of the S endings, of course ending 1 is the happiest of them all, with seven and caleb both coming out of the project with minimal damage, and their relationship being born sturdy and unshakeable after coming out of the hell that was the hospital. but i honestly really really love ending 2. seven is still happy as he has roy's and caleb's posthumous funds and a nice community in idaho to live out the rest of his life in with a relative amount of peace. but even with seven settling into a calm and peaceful place, the ending isn't quite satisfactory. caleb was never able to let go of the past, the project will ultimately succeed as we see in ending 4, and seven will have to live with the guilt of abandoning it all for his own sake. all this to say that i think ending 2 does a great job at portraying one of the main themes of wttfm: letting go of the past, in nearly every single ending caleb ends up killing himself, and with the sole exception of ending 1 in the other endings he lives in a hell of his own design all because of his maniacal obsession with keeping the past alive. only through understanding he has a future beyond resurrecting the past does caleb find true happiness, which to me is a perfect summation of everything the game has to offer. now i only hope caleb can properly acknowledge his fate as a beautiful butch woman.



as for things to criticize, i would've loved to see more from julia in the C endings. or more julia in general, seeing her in the flashbacks would've helped expand her relationship with caleb. the action scene in both of the S path was a little jarring but i feel it was still written well and adds a much-needed bonding moment between 07 and caleb, even if it's on top of the bodies of several innocent guards. lastly, it would've been nice if frida's nature as a clone would've gotten a little bit more clarification, but that's ultimately not necessary considering it doesn't have much to do with any of the games themes and serves more of a worldbuilding purpose than anything.


ultimately i really liked wttfm, it's a great blend of horror and character-focused drama that does a great job at making you wonder what exactly happened in between those 11 years of memory loss while dangling almost every single answer directly in your face without telling you. the small details that are easily missed solidify the games events as real mysteries that could be solved by an astute reader, such as 07's scars not matching the kind of scars you'd get from jumping off a building, his hair being black despite aran's being blue and the first bad ending showing caleb's unreasonable and emotion-driven behaviour. an absolute joy to read from start to end <3


ps. hi ev

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haha omg i wonder who begged u to play the game and made u stream it over call haha wow thats crazy who would do that

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Seems like Spader caught another one LMAO, but I'm super thankful for your words, really! I'm glad that despite the male-centric cast, you're still able to enjoy it, which means a lot!

I really enjoyed reading what you thought of the game and its endings. I also really appreciate the criticism because this game definitely still has a lot of flaws! I'll definitely keep it in mind for future projects. Julia and Frida are characters that grew on me a lot, especially Frida. I definitely have more plans for her in store, though sadly I can't say the same for Julia :') I'm always happy to see the side characters getting some love either way!

Once again, thanks for playing and I'm happy you enjoyed the experience! :D

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I'm still playing and I want to know how to choose the best ending. I have chosen to use a blank card in chapter 4. Mainly because I didn't want to see them end badly, but I also wanted to know what the truth was.So, can someone tell me, please!

Alright, please follow this set of choices if you want to see the good ending:

  1. Chapter 5 - Stay still
  2. Chapter 5 - "I am not [redacted]"
  3. Chapter 6S - Stay
  4. Chapter 6S - Don't destroy it
  5. Chapter 7S - Stay still
  6. Chapter 7S - "What about me?"

This should lead you straight to the good ending! If you want to read it in more details, I'd recommend going to this guide, hope this helps! :D

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I'm glad you loved the game (even if it made you feel empty afterwards LMAO). The music box's title is "himari" or "ひまり", you can find it in here

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THIS IS MENTAL ABUSE


I loved the game sm tho LIKE OMG THE ARTSTYLE AND THE STORY?? definition of perfection. THE MUSIC TOO ESPECIALLY THE MUSIC BOX SOUND GAVE ME SM COMFORT I STAYED A WHOLE HOUR LISTENING TO IT 🙏🙏😭😭BUT OMG I CANT WITH THIS EMOTIONAL DAMAGE 😭😭😭😭

FINAL ENDING 1 AND 4 MADE ME SOB SM LIKE NO THE CREATOR OF THIS GAME WHEN I CATCH YOUUUU HKFKHFKGDDKH

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS TO MEE😭😭😭😭😭

LMAOOOO thank you and sorry for (indirectly) causing the all caps wailing. I'm glad you loved the experience despite it all and I wish you a swift recovery LOL 🙏

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Finished Where the Two Flowers Meet, just as the clock strikes midnight!

Congratulations on such a lovely VN release. It has just the right amount of calmness with a touch of unease to it. The mystery was fairly obvious, but interesting to read nonetheless. I can tell that a lot of care went into the creation of the VN despite having to work a full-time job on top of it. All in all, would recommend this to anyone who doesn't shy away from a bit of darkness and is looking for a short story to entertain themselves with (I finished it in < 2 hours).

Thank you for playing and for leaving a nice comment! I really appreciate it! A lot of time and care really did went into this game and I'm happy that it doesn't go unnoticed. I'm also glad that you find the story interesting! Wishing you all the best and have a nice day! :D

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This game had me in a vice grip all weekend! I sat down intending to play it for an hour and next thing I knew it was Sunday and I was making a go for the finale! 

WTTFM is such an emotionally resonate and poignant story, I wasn't ready for all the feels! 

I wrote full game review on my site: Where the Two Flowers Meet Game Review

Thank you so much for creating such an amazing game!! 

I've said this on twitter but I'll say it again, thank you so much for playing through my game and for writing such a well written review on it! I've actually read some of your reviews before and enjoyed it thoroughly, so it was a really pleasant surprise when I clicked the link and saw Blerdy Otome (you're one of the reasons why I decided to finally purchase Sweet Pool, Togainu no chi, and Room No. 9 lol). It's an honor and I really appreciate it! Thank you for all that you do! :D

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This game felt so wholesome then it ripped your heart out :( in a good way? I guess haha? Since I really enjoyed your other games and this one I decided to at least support you a bit and got the artbook! 

That was lovely and I just really like how you write characters overall. In case you read this (or not it's fine) I would be curious if you have a "favorite / right ending" in your opionion? Aran is so pretty I can't and I feel Caleb's suffering (to be honest most of my characters suffer too so I can't complain there).

Woah Aran pfp!! Thank you so so much for the support! I really do appreciate it, more than you can ever imagine! I'd also like to thank you for leaving a comment on my other games too! I just got around to reading them and it's really sweet. I'm super happy that you enjoyed my works so far and even bought the artbook. I hope you find the artbook enjoyable to go through :D

Writing and creating characters is my favorite thing ever, so I'm always happy to hear that people like the way I write characters! (Especially making your characters suffer, that's really fun isn't it LOL). 


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As for my favorite ending, I'd honestly say Ending C (the one where Seven snapped and got into an unhealthy relationship with Caleb). It's the most fun to write and imagine all the angst lol. However, the right/canon ending would have to be the best ending of all, Final Ending 1 (the two escaped and moved on). I like making my characters suffer but I also like seeing them go through it and come out a better person with a better future.

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I had the default pfp for so long now lol I think it was time to change that and you're welcome!

Oh yeah I'm always most interested in the characters when it comes to story and I love creating characters too and make them suffer lol. 

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To be honest I really like this ending too! Yeah the angst would be great on this one. A part of me would probably hope they come together in final ending 1 though I understand that this isn't possible. Thank you so much for responding to my comment I appreciate it!

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/ spoilers ahead!

started my new year off RIGHT with this game. the clock hit 12 just as i got to the epilogue and something about that feels so poetic, hehe

your writing is just. otherworldly. your previous vns, especially for amerta have a very special place in my heart -- and once again, you've outdone yourself aaaaaaaaa i cannot even put into words how much i loved this. 

all of the characters are absolutely gorgeous btw and i will think about aran's beautiful hair forever he is literally SO pretty :")

i also really, really love caleb's range in all the different routes, from someone really guilty to someone who doesn't hesitate to literally cut 07's brain out while he's still alive. he's so sufficiently unhinged while also being someone i can't help but sympathise with -- i'm repeating myself but i'm in love with your writing!!

thank you for making this genuinely it will literally stay with me forever

edit: also wanted to add, i love the name of this vn so so so much

Aww happy new year to you raazberry! I'm so happy to see you here as well and to think that you spend the new year playing this game makes me feel really touched! Reading this comment really made my new year better, so I hope the game made your new year better as well.

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Caleb was a really fun character to write so to hear that you enjoy his antics while still find him sympathetic makes me happy! I like to tease him a lot by making him go through so much stuff but ultimately, I really care about him LOL

I also thought really hard for Aran's design, so I'm truly happy that you find him pretty! The title also went through some revisions and even recently I've been thinking whether it's a good title or not, so it's a relief that you like the title :'D

Just- thank you so much for playing and for your kind comment! They really do mean a lot more than you can think! Have a wonderful 2024 ahead of you and stay hydrated! <3

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I made this account just to say how this game made me cry.I swear to god this should be illegal😭 I never really cried to a game before so much.

Especially final ending 4 had me dying for hours

I also absolutely love Aran<3

(i adore this game)

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Thank you for playing and I feel so honored that you made an account just to leave a nice comment! Thank you very much! Sorry (not sorry) for making you cry though LOL

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OMG YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I LOVE YOUR STORIES!! Ever since I played one of your VNs, I fell in love! And I downloaded the others! And just as I expected! All of them were amazing! Each of them gives me such a mix of emotions!! You NEED to keep going because WE.NEED.MORE!!
And Also I hope you a have a great day! :3

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AHHH thank you so much for your kind words!! I'm so glad that you enjoyed my works and it's comments like these that do motivate me to create more! I hope you have a wonderful day as well and once again, thank you for giving my stories a chance! :D

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This story touched me emotionally, oh my god i teared up during the story and cried at the endings too. It's well written and told in a compelling way and i appreciate that the story wraps up really well too. The art and music also adds a lot to the narrative and it really helped to make you feel what the characters are feeling during emotional scenes.

If you're interested in a good story for a few hours I'd definitely recommend this!

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The story is so tragic I cried.

The flashbacks help to distance the sterile hospital from the happy memories of Caleb and Aran together in the house, making the present day feel really desolate. "At the very least they're both alive and they can be happy again" was a really prominent thought in my head until the one tenous thread to those happy days is severed permanently with the reveal that the original Aran is already dead, and those good memories are in the past forever.

It really helps you to empathize with the loss that Caleb feels as you realize Aran didn't make it that far into their "10 year relationship" and is just left behind in the past forever with the rest of their "relationship" being Caleb torturing himself and others in his grief. I genuinely cannot replay the happy memories again without tearing up knowing that Aran dies so early and the scene where Caleb uses a sledgehammer on  Aran's corpse and turns all their love and hope and happiness into raw meat and a long-dead brain in a jar actually fucked me up. I genuinely felt grief for Aran and every time I see art of him smiling or being happy in the past that actually hits me.

To top it all off, the endings for Aran being "resurrected" are also really quite tragic. Forgive me if I misunderstood but the resurrection is basically just cloning and the real original person is still dead right? I feel like Caleb would know this as the person who made it happen, and the endings have an empty feeling in them to reflect that, like Caleb is just plastering over his pain by pretending that HIS Aran is back and never took his own life while some poor test subject has basically been killed and a new Aran is just confused and lost.

The ending where he takes his own life next to 7 and wakes up with Ro and Aran back in the house and the first thing he does is hug Aran and cry hit me so hard. I really am so impressed with how this game made me feel because I usually find it hard to be moved by fiction but this story really did affect me.

I had to take a break after that but I went back in and did the 07 endings where he bcomes his own person and im so glad I did that because it gave me some hope. The good ending where Caleb doesn't forget his grief but "moves on" and 7 doesn't forget his trauma but becomes his own person with Caleb really feels like closure. Like they're finally free from the events that happened so long ago and they can move on and stop torturing themselves, its really quite hopeful while still being somber which I adored. In a way, it kinda gave me back the "At the very least they're both alive and they can be happy again" hope I had at the start, just in a different way.

Also the music box at the end is so not fair for my heart.

This game is amazing, that is all.

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Oh my god, thank you so much for playing and for sharing your thoughts! I'm always so happy to know that some people are willing to spend a few hours of their time to play this and I'm really glad that the story is able to touch you in some way! That's all I ever want!

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I'm sorry (not sorry) about the tragic story lol

I also want to confirm that yes, you're right about the "ressurection" part! I'm gonna sound like a nerd for saying this, but technically the project itself is divided into different types of ressurection (like ressurection via brain manipulation, cloning, or by technology). But yeah, the dead stays dead and the whole project is just an attempt to create a "perfect" imitation of said dead person. You're also correct in thinking that Caleb is definitely more aware of this as one of the head researchers. Man really is fighting a losing battle since the beginning.

Once again, I feel really honored that this story of mine is able to move you! Just overall extremely grateful that you gave this story a shot and enjoyed it! Words will never be enough to express my gratitude to you and to other players that played this!

I'm curious though, would you mind if I ask you how you found this game? Just survey purposes.

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Thank you for the reply! I found the game while browsing the boys love tag on itch.io and I recommended it to some of my friends after finishing it hahaha. 

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The story hurts but its soooo good

Yeah the impression I got was kinda like the game SOMA but I wasn't sure exactly. Poor Caleb, I'm glad he gets some semblance of closure in the ending at least, even though that music box scene is still painful hahahha. I hope 7 and Caleb live peacefully and find closure (╥﹏╥)

Thank you again for the story, I'm glad that I got to experience it cause its left a genuine impact on me and its rare for me to be moved by a game, you really did an amazing job with WTTFM. I've followed you on itch.io and twitter and I really look forward to any future projects you might work on!

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Thank you for telling me and for recommending this game to your friends! Thank you too for following me and for the support! It's really appreciated!  I hope your friends could enjoy this game as well. 🙇

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even with the complications, with the save, i found this to overall to be a great story! i happen to be someone who tends to talk alot when I feel like I can, so please dont mind me, so all the endings were unique in there own way, and i enjoyed every part of that, i especially like the final ending 1: rhododendron just because everything seem to end up well, i like happy endings and well this could kind count as a happy ending in my books, definitely one of the best vn i played so far, thanks for making it. and the cg were all drawn wonderfully, i really like caleb and aran's design, caleb looks really cool in the final ending 1, and it seems like he still doesnt know how to tie a tie. i love all the games you made so far, hope to see something new in the future as well but of course theres no need to rush. but if you do happen to have something planned i wish you luck on that. (i have a bad habit of talking to much i swear dont mind me, dont even read it all.)

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Aww thank you so much, gh0xty! And do feel free to talk! I love reading what people have to say about my projects, be it good or bad. I'm happy that you still enjoyed the story despite all the scuff! It's an honor to have this work being regarded as one of the best vns you have played so far! I also worked really hard on all the art, so I'm really happy that you like it!

Once again, thank you for sticking through the game despite the complications and for your continued support! I hope my future works will not dissappoint! Until then, take good care of yourself! :D

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im crying. i swearrr i had something to do so i saved and closed the game and by the time i came back home i went on my computer only find out that all the save slots were empty, i knew for a fact that i have saved since it was only a few hours ago, last time this happened i thought it was only a mistake and i had to reread from the start all over again not that i mind to much but, the skip button doesnt work either, perhaps it might have been my storage problems but it wasn't that. the one i downloaded the windows 64bit and also the 32bits one, im not sure if this is just a problem with me though! even though i've only gotten to chapter 5 i can tell this was going to be great! i've loved playing your other games too, i honestly had my eye on this one for a while too

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Oh, that is definitely weird. I'm really sorry for all the inconvenieces, but thank you for letting me know about it! I'll try to fix it to the best of my ability! For now, you can use the skip button if you turn on the "unread text skip" in the config. I hope that helps! If it still doesn't work, I can personally email you the game file with a save slot that begins in chapter 5. Again, so sorry for the inconvenience!

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of course, no need to worry! thank you for telling me about the skip button thing, i didnt notice it since i didnt see the config, this will definitely help in getting though the dialogue faster. thanks alot! 

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You're welcome and I'm happy to hear it! I hope you'll be able to enjoy the remaining chapters and don't feel shy to let me know if you encounter more error (hopefully there won't be anymore though)!

of course, i'll let you know if i happen to find anything more errors and such, i do hope there won't be any, i just finished playing the c route and its so good! im crying, literally the final ending 4 is so nice, its like we can finally see them happy together, i happen to like hydrangeas.

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I am so upset I recorded this whole game which by the way was a masterpiece. So epic. But there were a few parts of my recording that just had stuttering audio and it would freeze, god I hate my laptop. I will find a way of getting it resolved lol.

But again, thanks for this game. It was such a wild ride.

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By the way present time Aran is gorgeous, the cg in final ending 2 I think it was, stunning.

Woah, thank you for all your effort of recording the entire game and I pray for your laptop 🙏

I'm really glad that you enjoyed the overall experience though! Thank you for the present time Aran appreciation too, always happy to see that :D

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deadass rushed it but fr excited for upcoming games from you

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Ooh this is VERY CUTEE! You drew them really well and I really love how soft they look here! Thank you for drawing them and for your continued support! :DD

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dude this game i love it so much, too much that i wanna draw something with the two characters so sorry to bother but is there any socials you have where you posted the initial sketches/ og designs i know theyre at the end of the game in the gallery when you finish but i forgot to save when i played it a few days ago and only realized now that i have the time to draw.

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hello! Thank you for playing and I'm glad you love it! I don't really post their og sketches too much, but you should be able to see them either from this post: https://syllphana.itch.io/wttfm/devlog/585467/wttfm-behind-the-scenes-post  or from my insta. It's: https://instagram.com/syllphana and it should be in my 💐 story highlight. I didn't post all of the early designs there tho. Hope that helps and I hope you can have fun drawing them!

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I am back with drawings of Aran XD

I wanted to do a simple design for Aran, but when I did it, I realized I had a lot of different ideas, so I drew him in different ways. He is not as beautiful as the original and my proportions are not that good, but I really enjoyed drawing him. Also, these are just paper drawings, nothing amazing XD

I also found an interesting coincidence. I was looking at my drawings waiting for coloring and then I saw that a few days before the game was released, I drew a guy that looked so much like Aran. So for fun I colored him like Aran.

I really hope you like my drawings <3

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FIOb0j4wbKPI1wXasQDAgbu9bja3sp43?usp=dri...

(I forgot to modify the access to the drawings but now it's done. Sorry for that)

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Oooh! Thank you for coming back and showing me! Super duper excited to see it but I need to request an access (which I already sent, sorry for all the trouble!)


EDIT: Okay I can access it. Your drawings are SO ADORABLEE! I love the way you drew Aran, he became so pretty and moe! I myself haven't drawn him with Ro, so I became really happy seeing him relaxing with Ro in your drawings. The design of your OC is also really cool! Thank you so much for sharing those with me! 

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I will write about how I felt in detail later, but I really need to say this...It was an amazing and beautiful story. I CRIED SOO MUCH. THIS STORY TOUCHED MY SENSITIVE SOUL AND THE FINAL ED 1 MADE ME CRY WATERFALL (Oh, i am not screaming, btw) One of the best vns I have ever played on here istg. I really want a sequel, but I don't think that will happen. Anyway, thank you for this wonderful story. I LOVED IT SO MUCH.

Woah thank you so much for playing! I'll be looking forward to hearing how you felt in more details when you have the time to write it down! I'm definitely extremely happy that you enjoyed the story though! And about that sequel, there's actually one planned. It won't really focus on these main characters though, but they'll make a really small and subtle cameo at least. It'll focus more on the universe itself. I hope you can still look forward to that! 

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Hi!

Snowy and I finished playing. It was a ton of fun! 

We got through all the endings and had a lot of discussions throughout our route choices. I also predicted the plot twist around Caleb almost as soon as it was revealed what he specialized in.

This was the order in which we reached each ending.

Final Ending 4
Final Ending 3
Ending 3
Ending S1
Final Ending 1
Final Ending 2
Ending S3
Ending S2
Normal Ending 2
Normal Ending 1

I do have questions about one of the routes though.

I don't want to put spoilers here, so I'll put it into a pastebin: https://pastebin.com/raw/UvFq21S1

Thanks for making this wonderful game!

Hey Knice! Thank you so much for playing through the entire game with your girlfriend! I really appreciate it! Knowing the order which you guys reached the ending was a really interesting insight too!

I'll answer your questions below so heavy spoilers down below






In the final ending 2 (choosing to live for Aran), Caleb and Seven didn't take as much time talking in that tunnel when compared to the other choice, so they had time to escape. Even if barely. While Seven took a bit to convince Caleb in the Seven ending, creating enough time for Frida to step in.

Also, about that fight scene, honestly I also thought it's goofy, but I look at the scene again and I decided to fully commit to it, embracing it LMAOO. It may not be the best decision storytelling wise, with the mood shift, but I'm glad to know that it made you two laugh at least!

I hope that clears up any confusion about it! Feel free to ask me if there's still something that confuses you. And lastly, thank you so much for your continued support so far! I really do appreciate it and I'm always happy to hear you two enjoying my games. Take good care of yourselves!

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would it be possible to add fullscreen? I am finally able to play now lol

Oh, you can go fullscreen by pressing f (it's during in game only though)

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oh thank you!

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Hey Amaris, thanks for the update and I'm glad you enjoyed the ride! 

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I LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH PLEASE MAKE A MORE GAY!!!♥️♥️♥️♥️ THANK YOU YOU'RE THE BEST :D

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YAAY YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING, GOOD LUCK FELLOW DEFAULT BUT BLUE PFP :D 💙

You guys are so wholesome what the hell LMAO /pos

You're very welcome though! I don't know if I'll make more gay/BL games, but I definitely want to make more games in the future, whatever it'll be, so I hope you can look forward to that! :D

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omg I just finished it and I can't find words on how amazing,wonder,magnificient...this game is I got all the endings and each time you surprised me with the plot twists I've also played your other to VNs,and all of them were well done you never disappoint fr I also love the design of your characters<333 rest well!

Woah thank you so much for your kind words! I'm really glad that you enjoyed my works so far and thank you for your continued support! It truly means a lot! (Thank you for using the Aran icon as well! Seeing that makes my day hehe)

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Anytime,you deserve all the support and more<333 (I love every one of the icons theyre all super cute but aran is my favorite character so far so i used himm i'm happy it made your day 

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Can't wait to play, ahhhh!! I'll update or make my review once i can play it but the premise is niceee

Thank you! I hope you'll enjoy what's in store whenever you get to playing it! :D

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I have played both of your games so far (For Amerta and WTTFM) both of them are really great! it's unlike other VN I have played so far. Your VN are the best ones I have played, definitely in my top 1. I am also planning to play Sweet Valentines. I bet it will be great! Keep up the good work and take your time :D

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Aww thank you so much! I'm really happy and feel honored that you think so about my works! I hope Sweetest Valentine and my future works will be able to entertain you as well! Once again, thank you for your kind words and have a great day! :D

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